and question number four

was sent in regard to Glen of Imaal Terriers but really applies to the  dog world in general

The majority of Glen of Imaal Terrier breeders are female; does this affect decisions at all and does this make for any overall impact on the breed?

15 thoughts on “and question number four

  1. The purpose sanctified the means.
    A number of highly qualified bankers succeeded for years to sell junk bonds to ‘believers’. They continued to do so far past the ‘point of no return’, although numerous and frequent warnings. The final consequences of this behaviour…are not fully known yet! A number of breeders sold and continue to breed and sell genetic disasters to’ followers’. Some breeds are already doomed. What have those two in common? The blend is a mix of anarchy ( insufficient or no rules) and we let them. Total lack of conscience (a genetic trait), greed…. Or simply, because it’s possible.
    The purpose (breeding a champ)sanctifies the means.

  2. Amazing…isn’t it? Breeding dogs apparently is a woman’s thing?
    Let’s review.
    How many woman(%) are member of the board of breed clubs, national KC’s… FCI?
    How many female judges? How far in the hierarchy are women “ tolerated”?
    Do / can / will they make the difference? What are they: protectors, believers, followers,…..victims of THE SYSTEM?

  3. Look at the changes not for the better in my own opinion done in Eire and the UK and europe from the 1960s to the late 1990s that was instigated on the whole by women wanting to change the breed.

  4. The changes made to the standard when a lady took control in Eire and the pressure put on to scrap the need to become a real champion by requiring both the Teatas Mor and show wins. Then some didnt want what we had they wanted a dog to parade around so changed it lighter boned,straighter in the leg, ear carriage,changing the bite and as two dutch women said to me last year they wanted a glens with no prey drive . The other point is Liz (Mrs Woman) ha ha it HAS been changed i dont think alot of people can / could handle them and so like so many terriers again speaking personally not for the better how many of the “improved breeds” can perform and be fit for function.
    Its just a shame the MFHA or a body of similar ilk cannot be used as a shining light to show how to keep a breed as it should. These are again just personal opinions .

    • —- The changes made to the standard when a lady took control in Eire —-

      Stephen

      Please can you list the changes made to the (IKC) standard – the original wording followed by the changed wording.

      Thank you.

  5. Well you cannot deny, without us women, glens would probably not be around much nowadays.At least we have kept the breed in the public eye.

  6. Steve, you’re being unfair to insinuate that Eithne was responsible for the finishing of the working tests. It was real life that moved on and it was scrapped for all breeds and it is “life” that is causing change in Glens and all breeds. Whatever we all think about it Joe Public and political correctness now rules all and whatever they say goes. It isn’t female breeders or Kennel Clubs that are causing changes, its the governments, rule makers and vets. Fit for function in relation to Glens just shows how poor the oft-repeated KC words were in their intention when the original function of a Glen is illegal in most countries now.

    Liz

    • Liz, Good hint…………….
      I took the time this weekend to revieuw the original book “Irelands Native Terrier, The Irish Glen of Imaal Terrier Reference Book”. Produced and Edited by Eithne Cleary.
      On page 21 a message from Maureen Holmes. I quote:
      THE NATIVE BREEDS OF IRELAND ARE PART OF THE CULTURE AND HERITAGE OF THE IRISH NATION. IT SEEMS TO ME, WE ARE ONLY THEIR CUSTODIANS WHILE WE ARE HERE. WHAT IS BEING DONE TO OUR NATIVE IRISH BREEDS CANNOT BE CONDONED….AND WILL HAVE REPERCUSSIONS FOR GENERATIONS TO COME….

      The copyrights has been passed to ‘the Irish Glen of Imaal Owners and Breeders Association’
      Who the f… and where…are they?

  7. The true spirit of the Glen was kept alive in recent times by Buchaill Deas, Mutton Jack and the Cregane line, gender does not come in to it.

  8. Is it the governments, rule makers and vets that think it’s ok for the Glen to weigh in over 40 pounds?

  9. Liz i did state a personal opinion,and if the KC or anyone else are going to use terms i agree they should think 1st and think out what they are going to use. On the trials they continued for sometime and as you know thier were only ever 2 dual champions and the trials were not popular with the show side. As without it you couldnt be a champion and a good thing too Tinahely lad won a trial and then 3 days later won at the St.Patricks day show. So do you think the ladies have changed the breed Liz whats your opinion?.

  10. Even on Eithne Cleary’s website it says The Glen of Imaal Terrier should not exceed 35lb (16 kg), bitches accordingly i.e. less. Why is this being ignored.by show people.

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