Colour prejudice?

The latest in the “interesting” questions thread:

Following, with interest, the discussion regarding differing Glen of Imaal Terrier breed standards something sprang to mind. What about the colour clause? Why are some colours acknowledged and some not? The “and tan” colour is seen in many countries and so is the liver so why isn’t it there in the standard? If working ability is all, and those are the colours of dogs with good instincts, are they worked rather than shown?

8 thoughts on “Colour prejudice?

  1. Chocolates arent in the standard thank god and if cant keep to a reasonable standard with bother to keep livestock.
    If you look at English Foxhounds,Beagles,Harriers and Bassets”working” they have colour standards and it works because the MFHA and others masters groups wont have it and the kc has no say thank god. Then how about a “white otterhound” or in cattle a white Aberdeen Angus we have the colours lets stick to them. No to dudley noses,No to chocolates they are not livers their not gundogs show world snobbery again. Thier is no place for them in the breeding programme or the breed in general lets follow the excellent lead of the MFHA and organisations.
    They have proven over 200yrs over breeding an animal that works and is shown under MFHA rules to a colour and type has excellent health itsa a pity we cant have an organisation like the MFHA running terrier and not the kc.

    • Liz, you’re right, the color has nothing to do with the working talents, these talents are based on the conformation of the Glen

  2. Really Mr Tydall would you care to comment on working terriers and hounds were colour and working ability are kept hand in hand by only breeding of the best . Do you work terriers and do you know why hounds and terriers are bred in the colours they are !. Thier is a reason Mr.Tydall what do you think that reason is !

  3. Very interesting question EFG. Were’nt a few of the old time Glens Black and tan. Can understand why Dudleys are omitted but would love to know why black and tan. If you look at the St Pats show pic from the afore mentioned topic, the dog on the extreme right is is black, look carefully he looks like his owners trousers. Would love to know the answer to this.

  4. This is what Swedish judge may learn from the Swedish Judge Compendium of the Irish Glen of Imaal, in their Magistrates, in terms of history around the glen coat colors.

    In olden times you could find glens in a colour said to ease the hunting above ground. It was called “slate and tan” and was considered to be “the preffered colour for hunting in County Wicklow”. Slate looked like the grey colour of the mountain and tan wore the colour of sand and soil. In other words, the dog blended in well with the surroundings of the beautiful Wicklow mountains.

    Yet another colour, now considered vanished, was called “blue” or “true blue” by the irish. A dark, greyish purple leaning towards blue, and by the irish poetically described as beeing “the same blue colour as the wild heather”. In these days, however, the only accepted colours are wheaten and blue brindle.

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