Terrier Day is tomorrow & NT entries close Monday

Tomorrow is Terrier Day so it is THE DAY for Glen of Imaal Terrier admirers…and it’s going to be a terribly early one as the breed is first in ring 6, hall 1 at 9.00am. Best of luck to everybody attending, hope your journeys aren’t too horrible and (if exhibiting) remember the dog you take home is still absolutely gorgeous whatever a judge says. Enjoy the day.

As Glens have an early call it’ll mean the big, big thing of Crufts can happen……Shopping. The list of stands, stalls and displays is huge so to enable plans to be made this is the list of attending trade stands etc. Remember that you don’t need it but, boy, if you want it, it’ll be there.

In the excitement of Crufts don’t forget final entries for National Terrier close on Monday and they aren’t extending. The show is on Saturday April 6th at Stafford Showground. There are 14 classes for Glen of Imaal Terriers and the judge is Harold Gay. Glens will be judged 2nd in Ring 2

Darlington Championship Show critique

Glen of Imaal Terriers.

There aren’t a lot of exhibitors near to Darlington and I thank everybody who made the trip. In view of what one spectator said to me today “do you realise you actually scratched your head when looking at class X?” it is time to come clean; my conclusion of today is that there are no easy answers for Glen of Imaal Terriers at the minute. They are one of the greatest breeds that ever lived but at the moment appear to be at a crossroads where some things are stalling. One thing that isn’t though is the “health” that everybody now has to be so aware of whether judge, breeder or exhibitor. There was only one front that I considered extreme and two shorter (not super short) upper arms; both things the bane of many achondraplasic breeds. Eye colours were all acceptable, jaws and teeth continue to improve and without exception strength was apparent in both throughout the entry. These things certainly appear to have been cracked but what about the actual breed? Where are things going?

The Best of Breed was 10 years old and the Best Dog was coming up 7 and both were an out and out credit to Glendom but is that a sign of the longevity of the breed (talking to exhibitors afterwards it was nice to see the look of disbelief on a newer persons face when they realised how mature the top senior winners were) or a startling example that younger Glens aren’t really cutting the mustard that well? I’m fully aware that it’s the entry on the day, just my opinion etc. etc. but certain things should be the hallmark of Glen of Imaal Terriers and they were missing in sround 50%. All judges interpret a standard slightly differently and some things are considered more important to some than to others, it’s why exhibitors keep going month after month, but there are things that should be sacrosanct so where’s the bone? Where’s the movement? Where’s the all over musculature? Where’s the fitness? Those things, particularly the last three, aren’t rocket science whatever the level of expertise of the owner but in quite a few of the dogs today they just weren’t there.

A judge, once they have gone over a dog, should have a pretty sure idea of what to expect in movement. Moving is used to confirm what the hands (and eyes) have already found, apologises in using another analogy, it should be the icing on the cake and it’s up to exhibitors as to whether the judge sees Royal or just a bit of jam slapped on. On decently cut, reasonably flat ground with an overall collection of good back ends and rather decent fronts, with hardly any straighter angles, some of the movement was rather a surprise and it lifted the old-fashioned road walkers up into a different league.

That may have caused head scratching but ribs didn’t. Two strange things to bracket together perhaps but an apt example of “the crossroads”. Movement in Glens used to be King but the frames being carried around were often poor in the rib department; slab sided, short and shallow often being found. Today the slab was gone, the shortness was gone and it was ticks mainly all round in that department.

There were ears, thankfully none of those high flyers currently fashionable in some countries, there were toplines that were basically where they should be. Exhibitors know their dogs and don’t want the list of nice this, nice that and good the other. They want to know why a judge placed their dog where they did and why they were above or below a particular animal; my reasons are below.

PUPPY DOG: 1) Alstead’s Golden Spurs. He’s a baby and he’s raw. He walks well then he throws his front everywhere. He has a topline then he hasn’t. He can stand balanced then he doesn’t know the meaning of the word. He handles well and has all the essentials in one so young. To use an old-fashioned term-a prospect. RCC and congratulations to his owner on turning a brindle coat out so well.

JUNIOR DOG: 1) Golden Spurs.

LIMIT DOG: 1) Howarth’s Donvaleset Liffy at Arkview. A longer length dog that appeared even longer due to his full coat. Underneath it all was excellent bone right through with the right amount of substance (not the fat that many Glens carry). Excellent drive from well muscled quarters but quite short in front reach and flatly refused to settle.

OPEN DOG: 1) Ashcroft’s Romainville Typhoon. This is a Glen of Imaal Terrier dog. He was shown under me in 2012 and the critique said “this brindle dog is often hidden in the ring by an over heavy, over long coat but today he looked the business. His strong head, nice turn of front, good neck, typical topline, drive and balance just shouted. If his owners could just get it all together this dog could be like many of the Glens throughout the years; gets older and gets better”. He got the Reserve CC then and since that show has rarely been hidden by coat so his virtues can be seen and appreciated. His owners have worked really hard and now he only occasionally changes his weight and leans forward at the stand so flattening his topline. CC and congratulations on your first Champion.

VETERAN BITCH: 1) Seall’s Ch Brockland Belle Bregorrey. My notes say “she’s still got it” which was the thought as she walked into the ring. Bone in proportion to size, excellent reach and drive, head, topline, jaw, balance, shape, it’s still all there and she knows it. The package was topped off with a tight, tidy coat of correct texture. Best Veteran, CC and BOB despite the change of handler at one point!

POST GRADUATE BITCH: 1) Baldock’s Ellerton Dusty Beauty. This bitch just doesn’t match on the move what examination tells you. Good body proportions, decent topline, nice angles front and back are on the table but on the move it’s a different story; reach and drive are a bit short and she flattens her topline…oh and why should she stand balanced? Read her sire’s critique for 2012.

LIMIT BITCH: 1) Ashcroft’s Romainville Moira. A plain looking bitch with her coat only just coming through; she was a revelation. There was an excellent outline and proportion, nice bone, good legs, good angulation, a body with shape and she moved out well with good reach and drive. Res CC.

2) Seall’s Bregorrey Madam Defiance. A smaller feminine bitch rather swamped by excessive feathering. Like the Post Graduate winner she moves differently to what the table examination tells you. Beautiful body proportions, correct angles front and back but on the floor moves a little short despite excellent rear parallel drive. Her topline, which handled well, didn’t look good on the move. She is actually a text book example of what happens to a natural tail when the set on isn’t quite correct-the slightly higher position alters the angle of the croup on the move and up goes the topline.

3) Hannington’s Romainville Uptown Girl. This bitch was “sort of” there. Nice angulation behind, parallel drive but stands a little straight. Balanced body shape but prefers to be long. Has a topline but then hasn’t. The handler did a great job but more experience may help.

OPEN BITCH: 1) Seall’s Bregorrey Lady Belleisle. This bitch is a showdog rather than a Glen that is taken showing. She is eyecatching and moves with balanced rear and drive. For preference she should have a little more bone just had to have this class despite her awful coat which was why she went no further in the challenge.

2) Rogers Jeonty Meme Fern. Feminine bitch of good type, proportion and outline. On the table has literally everything going for her but yet another that unfortunately failed on the move.

3) Baldock’s Ch Jeonty Maybe Daysee. A bitch that is easy to see as to why she carries the Champion prefix but one more that doesn’t quite match up to table assessment. Well muscled and angulated behind but moved rather short in front despite her well balanced skeleton. A profuse coat and solid body shape didn’t do her any favours.

Harold Gay (Judge)



SWKA 2012 Critique

Glen of Imaal Terriers

Today all the Glen of Imaal Terriers presented to me full filled the criteria of the breed standard regarding length “deep and of medium length, slightly longer than height at withers”- with none of the extra long body Glens that are starting to appear exhibiting today. The entry overall was very interesting as it fully explored many of the interpretations of the sometimes vague standard. Everything is obviously judged on the day but it would be ridiculous in a breed as small as Glens to pretend the animals before you are unknown; a prime example being the Dog CC and Best of Breed Johnny Be Good at Romainville.  In a breed where overall presentation has gone a bit down recently his is always good but has sometimes been way too extreme. He is a smaller quite masculine dog with a superb wheaten coat and feathering that can smother him and render his movement and balance almost invisible. Judging is always first impressions so coat has to be mentioned again with the Reserve Dog CC Romainville Typhoon. Rather than the shorter body jacket and big feather of the CC winner he is often seen in so much hair all over he is impossible to assess properly but today both of them were excellent. Yes there is a lot more to a Glen than coat, it is one of the most distinctive breeds in profile, but that is the thing that makes or breaks the looks of a Glen. It is up to exhibitors whether they use it to compliment their dogs or not but at twenty pounds plus an entry it could make sense to decide not to hide your animal.

Overall there was plenty of muscle to be felt but a lot of it was due to leaping and jumping rather than steady constant road work and it gives totally different movement. Compliments to the way mouths continue to improve, only a few odd drop teeth and acknowledgement to Kathy George as three of the top four were of her affix.

Puppy Dog: 1)Bregorrey Wannabe Victory at Jeonty. 10 months old brindle and raw, raw, raw. He has nothing and everything. He’s got the bone and the head. What’s parallel movement? He could probably do it very well if he ever manages to sort out what to logically do with his legs. A pup that could have a lot of promise if the work is done with him.

Junior Dog: 1) Romainville Billy Wizz. An interesting wheaten young dog who can’t make his mind up whether a pup or an adult. Moves stiffly behind to begin with and then settles like a dream. At the moment an animal that looks bigger than he is as some bits have begun to mature and others haven’t. He’s got everything there, including excellent bone, and will be an interesting animal in a year or so.

Post Graduate Dog: 1) Jeonty Dinky Doughnut. A smaller wheaten dog all round but very much in proportion. Good head and bone for his size. Backline, muscle and movement very good.

Limit Dog: 1) Romainville Typhoon. A revelation. As previously mentioned this brindle dog is often hidden in the ring by an over heavy, over long coat but today he looked the business. His strong head, nice turn of front, good neck, typical topline, drive and balance just shouted.  If his owners could just get it all together this dog could be like many of the Glens throughout the years; gets older and gets better. Reserve CC.

Open Dog: 1) Johnny Be Good at Romainville. This is the Marmite Glen, you either love him or hate him, so let’s get it out of the way. He could have a better eye shape and colour and his front isn’t his best feature though both are adequate. What he does have is neck, topline, power. He has angles, drive, presence. There is a good skull, nice ears, outstanding presentation and total balance. Dog CC (his 3rd) and Best of  Breed.

2) Romainvillle Bodhran. A strong brindle Glen all through with outstanding muscle behind. Just doesn’t get it together like number one but a lot to like.

Puppy Bitch: 1) Bregorrey Madam Defiance & 2) Bregorrey Lady BelleIsle. Two sisters that are quite different and will probably change places but at the moment Madam Defiance is an object lesson in Glen puppydom. She is far more a finished item than her sister and her presentation and red brindle coat are text book. She has balance, type, proportion and even a backline, which many puppy Glens don’t. A little straight behind maybe but at the moment is certainly a prospect. Best Puppy. Lady BelleIsle has superior muscle development and wonderful drive behind but needs a lot of coat work, is rangier and not as together as her sister. A nice pair.

Junior Bitch: 1) Romainville Jean Genie. Nice brindle bitch that has all the requisites of bone, rib, head, neck, body and good drive. Like the Junior Dog in that typical in between stage and like him indicates another twelve months should see a very competitive animal.

Post Graduate Bitch: 1) Romainville Inki. A seriously typy brindle Glen that has shape, proportion, angulation, head, rib, good movement and a serious disinclination to really show herself off.

Open Bitch: 1) Ch Winnie Wanna Make Music By Jeonty. Certainly wasn’t being hidden by her coat and that nearly cost her the first place but what was there was developing well with the desired harsh texture and it certainly allowed her excellent run of head to neck to shoulder and superb forehand to be appreciated by everybody ringside. Excellent strong, yet feminine, head at the front and enough muscle at the rear gave her the CC. Really nice mover.

2) Romainville Aoife at Pajantick. Reserve CC but only just lost out. Everything about this wheaten bitch draws sage nods of approval but the head of Winnie and her better movement was what finally decided it.

Veteran Bitch: 1) Brockland Belle Bregorrey. Lovely, ultra typy, brindle smaller bitch that is carrying those few extra pounds that means the neck becomes stuffy and movement looses the edge.

Harold Gay (Judge)


Glen of Imaal critique-Crufts 2010

Crufts-Glen of Imaal Terrier

The first Crufts to be judged under the “new” breed standard and as the first Breed Specialist to award CCs at the event since the Glen of Imaal Terrier was awarded Challenge Certificates it was an interesting appointment. I was more than pleased with my main winners but I have to register concerns about the way the breed seems to be going.

The Glen got off lightly with the Kennel Club re-writing with just one word, slightly, being added to the description of the bow of the forequarters. It is understood why it was felt necessary to do this and it is acknowledged that, in the early 90s, quite an exaggerated front was seen in some Glens but the breed itself realised things had begun to go a bit far and mainly sorted its own problem out with there only being a couple of fronts today that I would consider excessive. One previous Standard change that was hardly commented on was the changing of the word “desired” regarding height, to “maximum” but never including a minimum to counter-balance this so how small can a Glen be? Early photographs, particularly the official St Patrick’s Day 1934 first breed classes, show dogs with daylight underneath and distinct legs so combining that with the construction of the breed anything under 12 inches or so might be considered a fault. Smaller does not automatically mean wrong though because of that most important sentence in the standard-maximum substance for the size of dog. It doesn’t mean fat, it means bulk made up of muscle, body and bone. A mature Glen should neither be a stick insect nor a slug. Even though there is no height difference between the sexes it should be no problem to tell whether you are looking at a dog or a bitch. The Glen of Imaal is not an easy dog to judge (or breed) if the basics of type and structure have not been fully grasped and the entry today leads me to think that such a fundamental principle has not been really understood since CCs were awarded in 2007 as I haven’t seen such a mixed entry in over 30 years!

Mixed entry isn’t a reference to mixed type. The Glen has always been a breed that embraced multi-type and thrived because of it. It is the reason that for years Glen of Imaal exhibitors were seen with slight consternation by many judges; they were a breed that actually wanted to know exactly why decisions were made & expected to debate it. People who knew the breed wanted to know if their judges did. A slightly old-fashioned system now, but Glens have seemingly not been altogether well served by changing judging to a seminar based activity rather than out in the real world talking to a lot of different people and actually seeing dogs.

The Glen structure isn’t unique, there are other achondroplasic breeds, but they are the only Terrier that did have to earn a working qualification before becoming a Champion and is still, legitimately, worked so form and function says there should not be a short upper arm so where has it come from? Is it that judges aren’t recognising the fault and getting it mixed up with some Glens being shorter on the leg or do some people not realise what it is? A short upper arm restricts forward movement. To the uninitiated eye a dog is moving properly, but rather than extending the front leg to pull it back the leg performs a more up and down movement. It can look spectacular and the dog can appear balanced rather than uneconomical in movement but the higher lift of the front feet gives lie to the Glen “covering the ground effortlessly”.

Maximum substance for size includes bone and in some of the younger dogs more was needed. The senior classes were excellent and bone can develop but the basis has to be there to lay down the frame for the adult Glen. Body shape, proportions and overall balance are all included in the overall picture and one or two were just wrong. Glens are not a long breed but there were some that certainly fitted this description and the longer coupling was compounded, in a couple of cases, by shortness of leg which totally distorts the balance of the dog and gives rise to a flat topline; something that is a complete antithesis for the breed.

Mouths for along time were a big problem in Glens but the improvements made here go from strength to strength with all dogs having good sized teeth and only two dogs having a poor bite but coats are obviously still a problem for some. A Glen of Imaal Terrier with a correct coat, and none here today were soft, is easy to look after; strip it and it grows & needing little work if kept on top of. The poor winter just experienced was manna from Heaven for growth & coat preparation of a breed that thrives in the cold so it was a bit of a surprise to have dogs with coats way past their best. Not everybody can strip at exactly the right time but not to strip at all does rather let the dog down in an entry that had some animals looking the best they have for years. The effort was noticed ringside as well because after judging some long term admirers and judges of the breed also said how well some of the dogs looked better than they had for years.

Veteran Dog: 1) Calloch’s Multi Champion Perfect Lionheart of South Wind Kalyani. The first of the multi-titled dogs and like his “younger brethren” in Open you can see he earned his awards. Classic Glen and good to look at, showed his age in movement by appearing rather stiff in front & behind.

Special Puppy Dog: 1) Croft’s Glenwellieka Flint of Flynn. Actually a better dog handled than viewed as his coat hid everything and correct shape and proportions are under there. When he finally settled there was good drive from a well muscled and nicely angulated rear. Best Puppy. 2) Hardy’s Amhard Freebooter. Smaller than one, nice head and adequately boned but his proportions at this age leave a bit to be desired.

Special Junior Dog: 1) Croft’s Glenwellieka Flint of Flynn. 2) Barnaby’s Kenocto Chief’s Song. A well up to size dog, with bone and muscle, that looks even bigger through sporting a huge coat. Rather close behind.

Post Graduate Dog: This class is always a difficult one as it is the only place the teenagers can go and in Glens twelve-eighteen months can make all the difference. 1) Horton’s Jeonty Highland Boy. A nice dog for his age with everything as it should be. Head coming along, rib and bone present, topline retains well both moving and standing, muscled behind. His conformation indicates he should have more to give in the movement department. 2) Ashcroft’s Romainville Typhoon. Another who handles better than his coat indicates. Nicely boned all through but is his own worst enemy as he stands in a way that does not flatter his shape and is inclined to half-passe when moving. 3) Roger’s Jeonty Wannabe Bauer. Handsome dog with nice proportions who needs to body up. The best put down of the three but today his movement was not up to it.

Limit Dog: 1) Garner’s Johnny Be Good At Romainville. This dog is a good illustration of substance for size. He is a smaller dog so it would be easy to think there should be more of him but he could never be mistaken for a bitch. A total showdog, including showing his handler up, in the best coat of the day. Nicely proportioned and an eye catching mover. Front structure slightly unbalanced but sound. 2) George’s Feohanagh Bryan at Romanville. Nicely boned dog, more of a “conventional” size, good angulation behind but tends to be unsound coming towards as he overpowers his own front.

Open Dog: The three well boned, well muscled, well put down, good headed dogs in this class were all Champions under more than one Kennel Club, all of a different type, all had points that made it easy to understand why top awards have been given in numerous countries and all are related to each other. 1) Welch’s Ch/Bel Ch Brockland Brayhead Lad. The better proportioned of the three, retained firm topline both on the move and standing, slightly straight behind but moved totally true. CC & BOB 2)Roger’s Ch/Bel Ch/Nl Ch Jeonty Wannabe Buster. Eye-catching dog with excellent rear drive, slightly let down by being not quite as good in front. Res CC. 3) White’s Multi Champion Abberann Conan AN Ch 6/7/8 CW 7/8/9. A master handler gets the best out of this dog but needing better rear drive and front extension was what placed him number three in the best class of the day. My compliments to all three owners.

Good Citizen Dog: 1) Barnaby’s Kenocto Chief’s Song.

Veteran Bitch: It was nice to see that Glens still continue to be competitive as Veteran is reached. 1) Seall’s Brockland Merrylegs for Bregorrey. I give this bitch Best Puppy at Crufts nine years ago and she is everything anticipated back then. Still retains her outline, shape, rib and proportions and moves with reach and parallel drive behind. Res CC. 2) Welch’s Bel Ch Brockland Brenna Anne. Another beautiful senior bitch who has retained her quality, now a little broad in front and tending to upright stance behind. 3) Forbes’ Ch Jeonty Hasaceilidh for Karensbrae ShCM. Lighter build all through, exceptional movement and balance, coat not of the quality or state of preparation.

Post Graduate Bitch: 1) Baldock’s Jeonty Maybe Daysee. 2) Sage’s Jeonty Lola May at Wickholm. Two litter sisters and very similar. Nice proportions, bone, rib and heads on the pair and both have balance and parallel drive behind. On the day it went to Daysee, despite still carrying her winter warmth in coat and body layers, as she was better balanced on the move and Lola May kept insisting on moving a little close at the front. 3) Smith’s Grizzlemarsh Dorathea. Nicely headed bitch that just did not want to move in anything like a settled manner.

Limit Bitch: 1) Seall’s Brockland Belle Bregorrey. Nicely packaged and presented, well shaped, good proportioned, smaller bitch who is balanced on the move and handles well but tends to stand over at the front and under at the rear 2) Allerman’s Emeldir Priness Astrid at Glenwellieka. Sound moving with nice outline and shape, needs more body and bone all through.

Open Bitch: 1) Roger’s Ch Jeonty Fern Grass.  Beautiful wheaten bitch who has it all-well most of it. Bone & substance but still feminine, retaining topline both at the stand and on the move, good reach and drive, coat just at the stand off stage which made her appear fatter than she actually was. CC. 2) White’s Ch/IrCh Abberann Ennya. Well presented, well handled bitch with excellent drive but stilted in front movement. 3) George’s Romainville Miss Moneypenny. Stands well but lets herself down on the move by being too close, body shape and proportion better than her coat indicates.

Harold Gay (Judge)

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…even though we may never be spoken to again!

This blog runs on things sent. It may be articles that are of interest-Glen of Imaal Terrier or just anything vaguely related, show wins, snippets of gossip, suggestions sent in, we have ’em all. Last week an idea arrived “Harold Gay is doing Crufts, the old photographs on the blog are liked, can anything be done?” Backs of cupboards have been gone through and the bottom of boxes searched and here we have it

This was taken at the Golden Jubilee Show of West Midlands Terrier back in 1983 when, as Lyn Pugh the girl on the right says, we all had a waist and only one chin.